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Do You Have the Skills You Need to Survive a Depression?

2023.03.28 20:26 LIS1050010 Do You Have the Skills You Need to Survive a Depression?

Do you think you have the skills to survive a Depression?
Let’s face it. We may say we’re preparing for winter blizzards or freak hurricanes, but down deep, if you’re a prepper, what you’re really preparing for is a collapse of America’s economy. It may happen within a few days, or it may be a continual downward slide over many years. Its causes may include numerous Katrina-size natural disasters, a toppling federal government, chaos on Main Street, and the odd meteor or two.
Regardless of the causes, we want our families to be as secure as possible for the long haul.
So, the question that naturally arises is: How do you prepare for a Greatest Depression? Is it even possible to prepare for something that may last a decade or much, much longer? Is it better to be a homeowner, even if someday you’re unable to make your mortgage payments, or is it better to have mobility and rent? Should you leave your life savings and retirement funds where they are or take the tax and penalty hit and invest in land, or gold, or a year’s worth of food?
While there are no definitive answers to these questions, you can take stock of your level of preparedness, see where the gaps are, and work to fill them.

Assess Your Depression Survival Skills

Let’s begin by evaluating your skills that would help you survive a depression. Answer yes or no to the following questions:

Easy skills level:

Do you know how to sew on a button?
Do you know how to use an oil lamp?
Do you know how to boil an egg?
Do you know how to ride a bike?
Do you know how to keep houseplants alive?

If you answered yes to all five, move on to the next level.

Medium skills level:

Do you know how to cut up a whole chicken?
Do you know how to hem or fix a rip in clothing?
Do you have a stocked first aid kit in your home?
Do you know how to build and maintain a fire?
Do you know how to cook and season dried beans?

If you answered yes to any of the five, move on to the next level.

Hard skills level:

Do you know how to grow your own vegetables?
Do you know how to use a pattern and sew your own clothes?
Do you know how to can fruits and vegetables?
Do you know how to start a fire without matches?
Do you know how to raise chickens?
Do you have a fully prepared emergency kit in your home?
Do you own and know how to use a gun?
Do you or someone in the home know how to fish and hunt?
Do you have a well-stocked pantry?
Do you know how to make a quilt?
Do you know how to bake bread from scratch?
Do you know CPR and basic first aid skills?
Do you have the physical ability to ride a bike?
Do you know how to purify water for drinking?
Do you know how to cook in a dutch oven with charcoal?

If you answered yes to all in this level, congratulations! You will survive.
If you passed the easy and medium levels but failed the hard level, not to worry. You are teachable. A Boy Scout learns 99% of these depression survival skills! Select a skill to learn, make a plan, and then work the plan! Rinse and repeat.
Now, let’s consider a question.

Readers Respond: How Should We Prepare for a Greatest Depression?

If we could talk with survivors of the first Great Depression and ask them, “If you could go back to 1925, how would you have prepared for the Great Depression,” I wonder what they would say.
We’re preparing for something on a worldwide scale, so I asked Survival Mom readers this question: How should we prepare for a Greatest Depression? Here is a curated selection of those responses.

Is it possible to prepare for something that may last decades? Yes, but it’s not easy. I think it involves home ownership (not a mortgage, which means the bank pretty much owns your home), enough land for self-sustainability, and the skills to utilize that land. I see prepping as something that will help me get through lean times. Hopefully, we never have to survive totally off our food storage. Instead, our food storage will just help us stretch our budget if things get hard. (Bitsy)
I remember my grandparents and uncles talking about the Great Depression and WWII rationing; honestly, I don’t think they noticed a huge difference in their lives. They lived very simple lives in eastern Kentucky, my grandfather quitting school at 7 to go to work. But they also had skills that most of us preppers can only dream of. Inflated food costs were no big deal if you were growing most all of what you needed. They kept gardens, orchards, chickens, and cows. Made their own clothes. Mended their own shoes. Never really strayed too far from home. If we’re going to survive something long-term, we HAVE to relearn those basic skills and learn to take care of ourselves. (Andrea)
The way I look at it, my food storage and other preps are giving me OPTIONS and increased flexibility at a time when we might all need to be extremely creative to thrive. I won’t be nearly so dependent on a steady paycheck, so even if I lose my job, I can make it for some amount of time without facing utter hopelessness. If I’m fortunate enough to have a job and steady pay, I can use my money for needs other than food. All I’ve stored is insurance and wealth for bartering. (Linda)
We know how to can, dehydrate, and we are saving many staples, but do we know how to fix and repair? Can we stitch a wound or have an understanding of herbal remedies for when doctors are not in the budget? The preparation we need to do is on every single level of our lives. (Kris)
I think of food storage as a supplement if things somehow manage to limp along. If things completely collapse, then food storage becomes not a supplement but a bridge to tide us over while new ways of growing and transporting food are worked out. Keep in mind that there are basic differences in types of food. Grain is relatively easy to transport for long distances and is more likely to be at least somewhat available. Perishable items like meat, eggs, and fresh vegetables are likely to only be available according to what is locally produced or from your own backyard. Basic gardening skills can be ramped up fairly quickly, but those basic skills take years to learn. If you anticipate the need to produce your own food, get started now. Even if it is on a very small scale, you need to learn by experience what works and what doesn’t for your situation. Once you’ve got the basics covered, expanding the output is just a matter of doing more of the same. Buying a can of “survival seeds” and thinking that you’ll just plant them if the need arises is not a plan – it is almost guaranteed to fail at a time when failure could have very serious consequences. Can we prepare for something that will last for generations? That is really the question in a society such as ours, where the same systems that make us so efficient and wealthy are extremely fragile and interconnected by their very nature. Our system has no resilience, so if one part collapses, it can take everything else down with it. My preparations for a multi-generational collapse take a different approach than the typical prepper. Long-term preparations include a home-schooling library for our grandchildren, an extensive library on a wide variety of topics, “obsolete” technology in the form of slide rules (they were used for all the calculations that put man on the moon and built the Boeing 747), and quality basic hand tools and fasteners of various types. The worst thing that could happen in this regard is for our society to lose the basic knowledge we have built over the past 6,000 years. (Stephen M.)
Before the Great Depression, most Americans did not live the life of affluence, that is the middle class and above standard of today. They were not poor by that era’s standard. As a matter of fact, compared to their immigrant parents’ life in the old world, they were very well off. Go look at a middle-class house built around the turn of the last century. Rooms are small to conserve heat. The closets are tiny because that’s all the room they needed. Few people had more than two or three changes of clothing. My Grandmother rarely owned more than four dresses at any one time. The newest one for church and special occasions. The next older one is for going out in public, such as visiting and going to town. The next older one for everyday wear. (and I mean every day, the same dress.) The very oldest one, oft mended and patched, for doing dirty work. The house I live in now, built in 1920, originally had a total of only four electric sockets. Nobody thought someone would have enough appliances to need more. My point here is that many people like my grandparents didn’t feel much difference once the Depression hit because they didn’t have much to lose. They were accustomed to a life that we consider austerity. Modern Americans are more spoiled than they think. $8 a gallon for gas is no big deal when you don’t own a car and never did and only dreamed you ever would. (Barbara)
I think it will be a different type of depression than it was back in the 30’s. People were closer to the earth and didn’t count on the government as much. They also “networked” alot and used barter with friends and neighbors even in the good times before the depression. This is one thing I have been working on myself. (Woodnick)
Zero DEBT!!! (George)
I would consider every purchase NOW in light of how it would be viewed if LATER we were in a Depression. For instance, would your child benefit more from a pocket knife or a new video game? A book or a plastic toy? An emergency radio that doubles as an MP3 player or an iPod? Buy things of quality, too. I would replace things now that you can. (Katy)
I think learning skills to survive a depression and teaching those skills to your children is important. My daughter can knit, sew, and crochet better than I can. In fact, my son can sew better than I can. We homeschool, so we have lots of books, including stockpiled curriculum for grades my children have not yet reached (in case we can’t afford to buy a math textbook then). Textbooks get low priority compared with food. I guess I am looking at a scenario where life is likely to get much harder and everything but food and shelter is considered a luxury. (Katy)
You get comfortable with populations shifting around, little or nothing in the way of government public services, and surviving without a job. You get used to using absolutely every part of everything you have. You “fix it up, wear it out, make it do or do without.” You learn how to plant and harvest and butcher and shoot. (Sunshine)
For a large-scale long-term Depression, I’d continue to store food and basic necessities as there may come a time when we have to completely rely on them. However, if there is no telling how long it would last, then money and storage would eventually run out. I have written about coming up with a personal economic crash plan to fall back on if or when a worst-case scenario happens. Not pretty to think about, but it may have to include moving in with family to pool resources, selling off belongings, possible bartering, etc. The main thing is survival and learning to live on less now. Imaging the worst-case scenario would help in preparing and not being in a state of shock if it happens. (Bernie)
Lately, every time I shop and buy something, I ask myself, “What would I do if I couldn’t buy this thing? How would I make do ?” It’s really made me think and has caused me to stockpile some items I hadn’t previously thought about, like repair supplies for water hoses and shoes and iron-on repair patches for clothes. Sometimes, I’ve gone to the internet and printed off recipes for homemade cleaning products, vinegar, fruit pectin, and instructions for darning socks, making paper and homemade ink and glue, etc. I don’t have time to learn to do all that stuff right now, but I want that info in my survival notebook for later, just in case. (Linda)
My mother will soon be 88. She was young during the depression. She said there wasn’t a change in their living standard. They lived in a rural area on a working farm. If they didn’t raise it or make it, they didn’t need it. They never had much to begin with, and when the depression began, they couldn’t tell any difference. I suppose somewhere in that story is our lesson. I am afraid that we may have lost enough of our morals and skills and have grown so used to our creature comforts that perhaps a depression could be much harder on us than the last one . . . much harder. (Reggie)
I advise stocking up on tools and tools and more tools. Especially consumable tools. A bow saw with a dozen extra blades. Extra drill bits. My cordless 14.4 drill is going on 12 years. I advise a solar panel for recharging. If you have the motivation, tools will help you tremendously in building what you need. I think that there will be an abundance of emptied structures to strip for raw materials. We will be pulling screws and nails from buildings. Every one will have value. But stocking up on extra boxes now is not a bad idea. (Sierra D.)
We are concentrating on learning skills to survive a depression. This year we are learning to save seed from our garden produce. I learned to knit this summer and have gotten some yarn on clearance from different places. I just watched videos on how to make tallow candles and pemmican….we have never saved the tallow from the deer and elk that the boys harvest each fall…now we will! Hopefully, the skills we learn will help fill in the needs as they arise as times get harder. (Sheri)
I think we’ll be seeing high prices and scarce commodities (if only because fleets will be grounded for lack of fuel or too-high fuel costs) and an actual lack of petroleum-based products like gas, plastics, and rubber. So one thing we’re doing is stocking up on spare tires for our biodiesel vehicles and bicycles, tire patching kits, plastic bags, etc. – anything made from petroleum that we think we need during a major transition to a different lifestyle. Oh – and fabric, thread, needles (besides food & seed). (Mary)
This is why I’m learning skills: gardening, animal husbandry, repair, crafting (practical things like knitting socks), cob building, and the like. I think if you already know how to do these things, it will be much easier to make the transition. (Herbwifemama)
My mom lived in a NYC tenement during the depression, and it was pretty bad. She said the only time she got enough to eat was when they went to my great-aunt’s farm in the summer to work. Sickness was everywhere and you couldn’t afford medicines. My grandmother lost her hearing due to ear infections. All my mother’s teeth were cracked and broken due to poor nutrition and illness. (Vicki O.)
My parents both lived through the depression before they married. My father, at times, nearly starved and worked at any job he could find. My mother’s family owned a farm and always had food. They didn’t have extra money and were very frugal, but they were able to eat well. I think preparations must include knowledge….how to grow food, both animal and vegetable. (Bernadine)
Practical, hands-on knowledge is, by far, the best thing we can do for ourselves. What good is an emergency seed bank if we don’t have the proper soil for it and don’t know what to plant when? How do you can your produce and meat over a campfire? Do you know the medicinal properties of the common herbs we use for cooking? (I didn’t know that Thyme tea is excellent for upper respiratory problems–specifically the ears!) What about hunting without a gun? Butchering what you’ve managed to kill? Get past the squeamishness and learn how while there is time to make the necessary mistakes along that learning curve. (Patty)
Has anyone thought of blacksmithing? Back in the day, every village had a blacksmith. I figure we’d need at least one skilled blacksmith for every few hundred people. (Chandra)
Interestingly enough, I had a grandmother and mother who lived through the Great Depression with lots of info! My grandmother lived on a farm, worked hard, lived frugally, and wasted nothing ( even cooking water went back to water the gardens…and amazing gardens she had!). She reused paper towels and foil later on in life, composted, and never bought anything without purpose ( big lesson there!). She spoke of hard times but not starvation. My mother grew up in New York City and painted quite a different picture: standing in food lines for bread every week, no heat or electricity ( too expensive), cooking potato soup on a potbelly stove, clothing from the Salvation Army, quitting school at nine years old to work in a pencil factory for food for her family, getting Christmas presents from the local church ( one gift, a wooden cradle, her father promptly broke up and burned to keep his children warm…heartbreaking). While hard times are ahead, I think the standard of living is so different now that we have many ways to downgrade and still live very well. It goes back to living intentionally, shopping with purpose, and planning ahead. We do need to learn to provide for ourselves and learn long-lost skills should our modern conveniences ne’er return. We also must return to forming communities, getting to know our neighbors beyond a wave of hello at the mailbox as we hurry inside. (Doctorb)
I used to have a class in a large city teaching people skills and urging them to make the move to the country. We had a very interesting large panel discussion on the depression. We invited people who had lived thru the depression and could relate stories of what they went thru. I’m glad we filmed it (quite amateur but a good record). It was fascinating! One consistent thing was that those who had lived in the country had gardens and lived like “kings and queens” compared to those who lived in the cities. They often said that as children, they didn’t know they had it bad. They ate well, played outdoors with siblings, cousins, etc. People in the cities often went hungry, stood in bread lines, and made meals out of the most meager ingredients. (Jan D.)

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2023.03.28 20:18 ThrowRABabyMedic I (20M) cannot work out the mixed signals from this girl (20F)

So general context, we’ve been friends for a bit and I came out of a long term relationship a while ago. We’d always got on well however after she found out she went to a karaoke bar during a potluck thing with friends and then spent the evening trying to convince me to go. Then a few days later we were at a gig with a few friends and with a few drinks inside me and her leaning back into me I ended up with arms around her waist. Played it very chill and neither of us acknowledged it but a lot of our mutual friends did know about it. A friend asked if she was alright with it while I was getting a drink and she said she was (only found this out later). We are in the same uni seminar group and have always been good friends and talked more. I’ve always known she was a bit of a rubbish texter as even when we were just friends she wouldn’t be great at conversing over text but was always chatty in person. We went to a memorial service (related to our degree) and afterwards we sat together for about 45 minutes and chatted about stuff generally until her housemates got there. I felt something might be there so we kept chatting but did a lot of it in person, over text she never really asked any questions and the conversations often drew to a natural close but it felt like a did a lot of the leg work when texting. We both ended up drinking in town separately a few days later and she text me first then to say she was in a nearby bar and wanted me to go there. I was out with people so said no and we flirted a bit about the fact she wanted me to go and takes throughout the night. When we both had got back to respective homes I messaged before I fell asleep saying that she only ever texted me first when she was drunk to which she responded she was fairly sober when she did that night. Again we didn’t really acknowledge it and spent a chunk of time together at university during the day but it was the last day of term. We talked that evening and both days of the weekend but I started the conversation each time and again she didn’t ask any questions really and while she chatted I felt I was doing the leg work again. I decided to leave it on Sunday afternoon (about 3 days ago) and see if we would text first which she hasn’t. She did also go home on the Sunday and was fairly tired at the end of term.
TLDR: When she’s had a drink she will text first and be flirty and she will chat in person no problem however she doesn’t text first when she’s not had a drink and isn’t a great texter with conversations feeling like I have to do a lot of the work.
I guess what I’m trying to work out is a) if she actually is interested or not and b) wether I should message her or just keep waiting to see if she messages me. It feels very mixed signals but I am aware it might be just alcohol speaking. She seems to send very mixed signals as she will happily go and chat over lunch just the two of us at uni but texts like a dead duck without alcohol.
Thanks in advance :)

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2023.03.28 19:45 houndoom92 What do you remember from the US expansion era?

The American expansion phase the CFL went through in the 90's is probably the weirdest period in the history of the league.
For those that don't know anything about that era, a little background

The early 90's were a very tense time in the league. They were down to eight teams after the Montreal Alouettes folded at the start of the 1987 season and it seemed like almost anyone could be next. BC had a lot of instability in their ownership at that time, Calgary's community ownership was barely scraping by until Larry Ryckman bought the team in 1991, Saskatchewan had to have telethons to raise money and keep them afloat, Hamilton had some bad teams and attendance problems having to compete with both the Argos and the Bills in the NFL, Toronto's ownership group fell apart after Bruce McNall had his legal troubles, and the Gliebermans were causing all sorts of problems in Ottawa.
Larry Smith became the commissioner of the CFL in 1992 and while he's often viewed the main driver of the US expansion, the reality was that Ryckman, McNall and the Gliebermans were really calling the shots. The experiment started in January of 1993 when Sacramento and San Antonio were awarded expansion teams. The owners of the teams, Fred Anderson in Sacramento and Larry Benson in San Antonio both owned teams in the recently suspended World League of American Football. Shortly after that announcement, the first problem emerged. It turns out that Benson didn't have as much money as he claimed to have and tried to borrow some from his brother Tom Benson, the owner of the New Orleans Saints of the NFL. That didn't go over well and San Antonio had to abruptly bail. (this should've been an ominous sign of how this experiment would go) Anderson was willing to bite the bullet as the only US based team and thus the Sacramento Gold Miners were a CFL team during the 1993 season. Most of their players were transplanted from Sacramento's WLAF club and the team of mostly CFL newbies struggled early on with a 2-8 record by Labour Day but played .500 ball after that to finish with a somewhat respectable 6-12 record. (of course they missed the playoffs in the West while a 4-14 Ottawa team made the playoffs in the East, screwy playoff formats in the CFL aren't a recent development)
1994 would see Las Vegas, Shreveport and Baltimore added to the mix. The Shreveport case was interesting as the Pirates were owned by the Gliebermans who sold the Ottawa Rough Riders to Bruce Firestone and got the expansion team in Shreveport. The Pirates were awful losing 14 straight games and ending up with a 3-15 record. Despite that awful record, they managed to have some decent community support and attendance numbers. Las Vegas saw the Posse get off to a 2-0 start but the wheels came flying off at ludicrous speed. They ended up at 5-13 and their attendance numbers were abysmal. An October 15 game against Winnipeg saw only 2350 show up at Sam Boyd Stadium and the last week of season saw a home game against the Eskimos get moved to Edmonton. Sacramento in their second season saw them improve their record to 9-8-1 but were having attendance problems. (they also missed the playoffs in a very competitive West Division while 7-11 Toronto and 4-14 Ottawa made the playoffs in the East)
Baltimore proved to be the most successful of the US clubs, but maybe a little too successful (more on that later). They made headlines early on when they named themselves the Baltimore CFL Colts, an obvious reference to the NFL team that have moved out in the middle of the night a decade earlier. People in Baltimore were also a little cheesed with the NFL at that time having lost out to Carolina and Jacksonville in the bids for expansion teams. The locals viewed the name as a nice little shot at the NFL, but the NFL didn't find it all that funny and right before the season started hit them with a court injunction which prevented them from using that name. Despite the off-field legal issues, the team on the field was pretty damn good. Unlike the other US owners, Baltimore's Jim Speros knew the CFL was a very different animal than the American game and got some proven CFL names for his team. A hall of fame coach in Don Matthews, a hall of fame QB in Tracy Ham, and a hall of fame defensive lineman in Elfrid Payton lead Baltimore to a 12-6 record and second place in the East. The first playoff game on US soil saw Baltimore get a 34-15 win over the Argos in the East Semi-Final, then one week later they went into Winnipeg and beat the Bombers 14-12 to advance to the Grey Cup. The title game in Vancouver was a close battle between BC and Baltimore that was decided on a last second field goal by Lui Passaglia giving the Grey Cup to the Lions with a 26-23 victory.
Things got very weird in the offseason between '94 and '95. It looked like the Las Vegas Posse would be moved to Jackson, Mississippi but that deal blew up in the league's face and they ultimately pulled the plug on that franchise. One relocation did take place as Fred Anderson moved the Sacramento Gold Miners to San Antonio to become the Texans. He did that so he could get a better stadium with the Texans playing in the Alamodome and to reduce their travel costs since they'd be closer to the other US based teams. Two more entered they fray in 1995 with the Memphis Mad Dogs and Birmingham Barracudas joining the ranks while Shreveport and Baltimore returned for another year. The Baltimore club also gave up their legal battle with the NFL and dubbed themselves the Stallions. The 1995 season saw the league realign its divisions placing the eight Canadian clubs were in the North Division with the five US teams were in the South Division. The playoff format would see five teams from the North and three from the South getting into the post-season.
The 1995 season was either the high point or the low point for the expansion experiment depending on how you want to look at things. Shreveport still wasn't very good finishing with a 5-13 record and the dumb crap the Gliebermans did in Ottawa happened again in Shreveport which annoyed many of the locals there. Memphis did ok with a 9-9 record but had some attendance issues and the Liberty Bowl really couldn't handle a CFL sized field. Turf sections had to be added to the grass field, the yard makers were 33 inches apart instead of 36 and the endzones were this really weird pentagon shape that was seven yards deep in the corners and fourteen yards behind the uprights. They also got screwed over by the playoff format as they missed at 9-9 with 8-10 Hamilton and 7-11 Winnipeg got in. Birmingham got some solid attendance numbers early on, but they fell off a cliff once the college football season started. They finished 10-8 and played a 12-6 San Antonio team in the first round of the playoffs and the Barracudas got demolished by a score of 51-9.
That brings us back to Baltimore where the Stallions dominated with a 15-3 record. The post-season started well as they got a 36-21 victory over Winnipeg, but their long term future took a massive hit just days after that game. The strong support that Baltimore gave to the Canadian game caught the attention of Art Modell who that week announced his plan to relocate the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore. Fan and corporate for the Stallions dried up almost instantly now that the NFL would be returning to town. They still got over 30,000 people to Memorial Stadium in their 21-11 win over the Texans that sent them back to the Grey Cup, but most of those tickets were freebie giveaways. Despite all that, the Stallions went into Regina and got a 37-20 win over Calgary to make them the only US based team to win the Grey Cup.
While the expansion experiment brought in some much needed cash to the CFL and improved the player pool a bit, the league ended up dumping all the US based teams in 1996. To make up for their departure, they returned to Montreal with a revived version of the Alouettes. Former Stallions owner Jim Speros and GM Jim Popp were put in charge of the Als. This is sometimes labeled as a relocation of the former Baltimore team but that's not 100% accurate. All the US based teams were exempt from the import ratio quotas that the Canadian teams have had for a long time and still have to this day. The Stallions players were all declared free agents and the Alouettes managed to sign about half of them, including Ham, Payton and running back Mike Pringle (although they had to wait a bit on him since he had an NFL tryout with the Denver Broncos) while a makeshift expansion draft was done to supply Montreal with some Canadian content.
Even with that over with, the CFL still had problems. The Ottawa Rough Riders could barely make payroll thanks to their constant string of ownership and management problems and they folded after the 1996 season. The BC Lions went broke for the second time in less than five years and would've folded as well had David Braley not stepped up to buy the team. Stampeders owner Larry Ryckman had legal issues when he was found guilty in a stock manipulation scheme. The Stamps were put into receivership where Sig Gutsche bought the team and fixed their financials issues (until he sold them to Michael Feterik in 2001 which led to a massive gong show of problems in Calgary. I don't want to go back down that road right now, thank god John Forzani came to the rescue in 2005). Saskatchewan had to go down the telethons road again, Hamilton was still on unstable ground until Bob Young bought the TiCats in 2003, Toronto's ownership remained a revolving door until MLSE bought them in the 2010's and Ottawa's return to the CFL with the Renegades in 2002 was plagued with the same problems that killed the Rough Riders (with the Gliebermans making another appearance) until the CFL pulled the plug on them in 2006. (thankfully the RedBlacks have been run fairly well since their debut in 2014)
Even the return of Montreal had some turbulence in the beginning. The Alouettes were a good team but couldn't draw any good crowds at Olympic Stadium. Speros sold them to Bob Wettenhall in 1997 but the attendance issues got even worse and they would've bit the dust if not for a strange scheduling conflict. They were set to face to face the BC Lions in the East Semi-Final (thanks to the league putting in the cross-over rule) but a U2 concert was scheduled for the Big O that weekend and the Als had to find a different place to play. Molson Stadium on the campus of McGill University (where the first version of the Als played from 1954 to 1967) would be the site and drew a bigger crowd for game that then they had all season. This was due to the fact that it was closer to downtown and the Big O has a well earned reputation of being a dump. Molson Stadium remains the home of the Alouettes to this day although Olympic Stadium got some limited use for playoff games and Grey Cups from 2001 to 2012.

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2023.03.28 19:29 xiaolii [H] Lots of Games [W] Trade for Games or Paypal (EU)

Last Updated List: 28/03/2023
I have quite a few games up for trade or willing to sell.
Primarily looking for games from my wishlist. Not a reseller, so please do not offer any games which I already have, not interested. Other than that feel free to offer your list of Steam games and something I may not have and fulfills my criteria I could/would be willing to trade for it/them.
If you're either trading or buying please state the game(s) you are interested in and your offer (game(s)/list/money).

Few things to note:

To make a trade you must respond to this thread first, I will not respond or accept anyone outside of this thread.
Some titles I have more than one copy of, is also listed as such, same for any DLC and non-steam games.
Not interested in any keys from an unofficial retailesource (aka grey market), curatoreviewer keys (aka beta/reviewebeta-testing), and not interested in anything other than Steam games.
Also not interested in; abandonware, keys for games that are already free on Steam itself, Steam profile-limited keys, and only slight interest in VR-titles and/or de-listed games.
When buying, I only accept payments in Euro's. Fees are on buyer.

Info:

Region (and keys region): Europe
IGS Rep Page
SteamTrades
SteamRep

I kindly ask of you is to be reasonable when making offers to make it a fair trade for both of us.
Let's have a good exchange/trade!

NEWLY ADDED:

Propnight

List of games:

16bit Trader
4089: Ghost Within
911 Operator
Airport CEO
Afterparty
Alien Breed 2: Assault
Amnesia: Rebirth
Anomaly II
Anomaly: Warzone Earth
Arcade Spirits
As Far As The Eye
Asterix & Obelix XXL 2
Autonauts vs PirateBots
AVICII Invector
Batora: Lost Haven (wishlist or Paypal only)
Beholder 2
Bighead Runner
Bionic Commando
Blackguards
Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons
Calico
Call of Juarez: Gunslinger
Call of the Sea
CastleStorm
Cats in Time
Caveblazers
Chicago 1930 : The Prohibition
Children of Morta
Close to the Sun
Cobra Kai: The Karate Kid Saga Continues
Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines
Company of Heroes 2
Company of Heroes 2 - Ardennes Assault
Company of Heroes 2 - The Western Front Armies: Oberkommando West
Company of Heroes: Tales of Valor
Cook Serve Delicious
Cook, Serve, Delicious! 3?!
Crash Drive 2
Crazy Machines 3
CryoFall
Curse: The Eye of Isis
Cybercube
Danger Scavenger
Dear Esther: Landmark Edition
Death Squared
DOOM 3
Drawful 2
Driftland: The Magic Revival
Dungeons
Dungeons 2
Dungeons 3
Eternal Threads (wishlist or Paypal only)
Euro Truck Simulator 2
Evoland Legendary Edition
Fallout 1: A Post Nuclear Role Playing Game
Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (wishlist or Paypal only)
Farming Simulator 17
Feel-A-Maze
Fight'N Rage
First Class Trouble
Flynn: Son of Crimson
Fobia - St. Dinfna Hotel
Frederic: Evil Strikes Back
Fury Unleashed
Garfield Kart
Garfield Kart
Garfield Kart - Furious Racing
Garfield Kart - Furious Racing
Going Under
Going Under
Gotham Knights (wishlist or Paypal only)
Gray Dawn
GRIP: Combat Racing
GRIP: Combat Racing
Guilty Gear X2 #Reload
Guts and Glory
Haegemonia: Legions of Iron
Hamilton's Great Adventure
Hellbound
Hidden Shapes Old West - Jigsaw Puzzle Game
Holy Potatoes! A Spy Story?!
Home Sweet Home
Homeworld Remastered Collection
Horizon Chase Turbo
Hue
Iconoclasts
Iron Fisticle
ITORAH (wishlist or Paypal only)
Jack Move (wishlist or Paypal only)
Jurassic World Evolution 2 (wishlist or Paypal only)
Ken Follett's The Pillars of the Earth
Ken Follett's The Pillars of the Earth
King Arthur Collection (Sub ID 25825)
King of Dragon Pass
Kingdom Two Crowns
Kingdom Wars 2: Definitive Edition
Kingdom Wars 4
Leisure Suit Larry 7 - Love for Sail
Lucius III
Mafia III: Definitive Edition (Region Lock: Sub ID) (wishlist or Paypal only)
Main Assembly
Medieval Kingdom Wars
Men of War
Metamorphosis
MirrorMoon EP
Monaco
Monorail Stories (wishlist or Paypal only)
Moon Hunters
Morbid: The Seven Acolytes
Mystery of Unicorn Castle: The Beastmaster
Necronator: Dead Wrong
NecroWorm
NUTS
One Finger Death Punch 2
One Finger Death Punch 2
Orbital Racer
Out of Space
Out of Space
Papo & Yo
Party Hard 2
Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition (Region Lock: EU-only: Sub ID)
PAYDAY 2
PAYDAY 2
PC Building Simulator
Pizza Connection 3
Planes, Bullets and Vodka
Police Stories
POSTAL 2
POSTAL 2: Paradise Lost (DLC)
QUAKE II
RAD
Radio Commander
Railway Empire
Red Faction Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered
Red Faction: Armageddon
Red Solstice 2: Survivors
Remnants of Naezith
Resident Evil 4 (2005)
Ring Runner Flight of the Sages
River City Ransom: Underground
Rock ‘N’ Roll Defense
Rogue Heroes: Ruins of Tasos
Rustler
S.W.I.N.E. HD Remaster
Serious Sam Classics: Revolution
Serious Sam Double D XXL
Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun
Shadows: Awakening
Shadows: Awakening
Shape of the World
Shapeshooter
Shift Happens
Shing!
Shut Up And Dig
Sid Meier's Ace Patrol
Sifu Deluxe Edition Upgrade Bundle EGS Key
Sigma Theory: Global Cold War
Sinking Island
Small World
Small World - Cursed! (DLC)
SONG OF HORROR COMPLETE EDITION
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (DLC)
Soul Axiom Rebooted
Soul Grabber
Soulblight
Space Crew: Legendary Edition
Sparkle 2 Evo
Spirit of the Island (wishlist or Paypal only)
STAR WARS Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy
STAR WARS Jedi Knight II - Jedi Outcast
Stacking
Starpoint Gemini Warlords
STASIS
Steel Rats
Stick Fight: The Game
Strange Brigade
Streets of Fury EX
Streets of Fury EX
Strider
Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones
SuchArt: Genius Artist Simulator (wishlist or Paypal only)
Sunlight
Super Magbot
Super Meat Boy
Surfingers
Swag and Sorcery
Syberia
Syberia II
The Amazing American Circus
The Beast Inside
The Citadel
The Dark Eye: Memoria
The Dream Machine: Chapter 1 & 2
The eXceed Collection: Aural Brutality Edition
The Falconeer
The Inner World
Ticket to Ride
The Invisible Hours
The Quarry – Horror History Visual Filter Pack (DLC)
The Sexy Brutale
The Town of Light
This War of Mine
Those Who Remain
Those Who Remain
Timberman
Time Lock VR
Titan Quest Anniversary Edition
Toejam & Earl: Back in the Groove
Totally Reliable Delivery Service
Tower 57
Tower of Time
Train Simulator Classic + 2 DLCs
Tropico 3 Gold Edition
Tropico 4 Collector's Bundle
Unshaded
Verdun
Violett Remastered
Wargroove
Warhammer 40,000: Space Wolf
Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide
Where The Water Tastes Like Wine
Windosill
Within the blade
Worms Rumble
Yoku's Island Express
XCOM 2
XEL
X-Morph: Defense Complete Pack
Youtubers Life
Zombie Driver HD

Steam gifts list:

Crash Drive 2
FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage
Frozen Synapse Prime
Gods Will Be Watching
ibb & obb
Killing Floor (includes Defence Alliance 2)
Marine Sharpshooter II: Jungle Warfare
Onikira - Demon Killer
Spacebase DF-9
Takedown: Red Sabre
The Witcher: Enhanced Edition
TRISTOY

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2023.03.28 19:29 xiaolii [H] Lots of Games [W] Trade for Games or Paypal (EU)

To make a trade you must respond to this thread first, I will not respond or accept anyone outside of this thread.
Some titles I have more than one copy of, is also listed as such, same for any DLC and non-steam games.
Not interested in any keys from an unofficial retailesource (aka grey market), curatoreviewer keys (aka beta/reviewebeta-testing), and not interested in anything other than Steam games.
Also not interested in; abandonware, keys for games that are already free on Steam itself, Steam profile-limited keys, and only slight interest in VR-titles and/or de-listed games.
When buying, I only accept payments in Euro's. Fees are on buyer.

Info:

Region (and keys region): Europe
IGS Rep Page
SteamTrades
SteamRep

I kindly ask of you is to be reasonable when making offers to make it a fair trade for both of us.
Let's have a good exchange/trade!

NEWLY ADDED:

Propnight

List of games:

16bit Trader
4089: Ghost Within
911 Operator
Airport CEO
Afterparty
Alien Breed 2: Assault
Amnesia: Rebirth
Anomaly II
Anomaly: Warzone Earth
Arcade Spirits
As Far As The Eye
Asterix & Obelix XXL 2
Autonauts vs PirateBots
AVICII Invector
Batora: Lost Haven (wishlist or Paypal only)
Beholder 2
Bighead Runner
Bionic Commando
Blackguards
Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons
Calico
Call of Juarez: Gunslinger
Call of the Sea
CastleStorm
Cats in Time
Caveblazers
Chicago 1930 : The Prohibition
Children of Morta
Close to the Sun
Cobra Kai: The Karate Kid Saga Continues
Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines
Company of Heroes 2
Company of Heroes 2 - Ardennes Assault
Company of Heroes 2 - The Western Front Armies: Oberkommando West
Company of Heroes: Tales of Valor
Cook Serve Delicious
Cook, Serve, Delicious! 3?!
Crash Drive 2
Crazy Machines 3
CryoFall
Curse: The Eye of Isis
Cybercube
Danger Scavenger
Dear Esther: Landmark Edition
Death Squared
DOOM 3
Drawful 2
Driftland: The Magic Revival
Dungeons
Dungeons 2
Dungeons 3
Eternal Threads (wishlist or Paypal only)
Euro Truck Simulator 2
Evoland Legendary Edition
Fallout 1: A Post Nuclear Role Playing Game
Fallout 3: Game of the Year Edition (wishlist or Paypal only)
Farming Simulator 17
Feel-A-Maze
Fight'N Rage
First Class Trouble
Flynn: Son of Crimson
Fobia - St. Dinfna Hotel
Frederic: Evil Strikes Back
Fury Unleashed
Garfield Kart
Garfield Kart
Garfield Kart - Furious Racing
Garfield Kart - Furious Racing
Going Under
Going Under
Gotham Knights (wishlist or Paypal only)
Gray Dawn
GRIP: Combat Racing
GRIP: Combat Racing
Guilty Gear X2 #Reload
Guts and Glory
Haegemonia: Legions of Iron
Hamilton's Great Adventure
Hellbound
Hidden Shapes Old West - Jigsaw Puzzle Game
Holy Potatoes! A Spy Story?!
Home Sweet Home
Homeworld Remastered Collection
Horizon Chase Turbo
Hue
Iconoclasts
Iron Fisticle
ITORAH (wishlist or Paypal only)
Jack Move (wishlist or Paypal only)
Jurassic World Evolution 2 (wishlist or Paypal only)
Ken Follett's The Pillars of the Earth
Ken Follett's The Pillars of the Earth
King Arthur Collection (Sub ID 25825)
King of Dragon Pass
Kingdom Two Crowns
Kingdom Wars 2: Definitive Edition
Kingdom Wars 4
Leisure Suit Larry 7 - Love for Sail
Lucius III
Mafia III: Definitive Edition (Region Lock: Sub ID) (wishlist or Paypal only)
Main Assembly
Medieval Kingdom Wars
Men of War
Metamorphosis
MirrorMoon EP
Monaco
Monorail Stories (wishlist or Paypal only)
Moon Hunters
Morbid: The Seven Acolytes
Mystery of Unicorn Castle: The Beastmaster
Necronator: Dead Wrong
NecroWorm
NUTS
One Finger Death Punch 2
One Finger Death Punch 2
Orbital Racer
Out of Space
Out of Space
Papo & Yo
Party Hard 2
Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition (Region Lock: EU-only: Sub ID)
PAYDAY 2
PAYDAY 2
PC Building Simulator
Pizza Connection 3
Planes, Bullets and Vodka
Police Stories
POSTAL 2
POSTAL 2: Paradise Lost (DLC)
QUAKE II
RAD
Radio Commander
Railway Empire
Red Faction Guerrilla Re-Mars-tered
Red Faction: Armageddon
Red Solstice 2: Survivors
Remnants of Naezith
Resident Evil 4 (2005)
Ring Runner Flight of the Sages
River City Ransom: Underground
Rock ‘N’ Roll Defense
Rogue Heroes: Ruins of Tasos
Rustler
S.W.I.N.E. HD Remaster
Serious Sam Classics: Revolution
Serious Sam Double D XXL
Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun
Shadows: Awakening
Shadows: Awakening
Shape of the World
Shapeshooter
Shift Happens
Shing!
Shut Up And Dig
Sid Meier's Ace Patrol
Sifu Deluxe Edition Upgrade Bundle EGS Key
Sigma Theory: Global Cold War
Sinking Island
Small World
Small World - Cursed! (DLC)
SONG OF HORROR COMPLETE EDITION
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle (DLC)
Soul Axiom Rebooted
Soul Grabber
Soulblight
Space Crew: Legendary Edition
Sparkle 2 Evo
Spirit of the Island (wishlist or Paypal only)
STAR WARS Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy
STAR WARS Jedi Knight II - Jedi Outcast
Stacking
Starpoint Gemini Warlords
STASIS
Steel Rats
Stick Fight: The Game
Strange Brigade
Streets of Fury EX
Streets of Fury EX
Strider
Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones
SuchArt: Genius Artist Simulator (wishlist or Paypal only)
Sunlight
Super Magbot
Super Meat Boy
Surfingers
Swag and Sorcery
Syberia
Syberia II
The Amazing American Circus
The Beast Inside
The Citadel
The Dark Eye: Memoria
The Dream Machine: Chapter 1 & 2
The eXceed Collection: Aural Brutality Edition
The Falconeer
The Inner World
Ticket to Ride
The Invisible Hours
The Quarry – Horror History Visual Filter Pack (DLC)
The Sexy Brutale
The Town of Light
This War of Mine
Those Who Remain
Those Who Remain
Timberman
Time Lock VR
Titan Quest Anniversary Edition
Toejam & Earl: Back in the Groove
Totally Reliable Delivery Service
Tower 57
Tower of Time
Train Simulator Classic + 2 DLCs
Tropico 3 Gold Edition
Tropico 4 Collector's Bundle
Unshaded
Verdun
Violett Remastered
Wargroove
Warhammer 40,000: Space Wolf
Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide
Where The Water Tastes Like Wine
Windosill
Within the blade
Worms Rumble
Yoku's Island Express
XCOM 2
XEL
X-Morph: Defense Complete Pack
Youtubers Life
Zombie Driver HD

Steam gifts list:

Crash Drive 2
FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage
Frozen Synapse Prime
Gods Will Be Watching
ibb & obb
Killing Floor (includes Defence Alliance 2)
Marine Sharpshooter II: Jungle Warfare
Onikira - Demon Killer
Spacebase DF-9
Takedown: Red Sabre
The Witcher: Enhanced Edition
TRISTOY

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