Weird al yankovic album covers

I've been working on a tool for about 5 months that makes it easy for people to create game editors (pictures at bottom). I am satisfied with what i have achieved, it is already functional and works great, it will open up many game communities to more options. Now however i want to expand it to cover more features and overall increase the quality.
Current the program works by a user giving it a file, and telling it where the start of a data table is, the size of the table, and also telling it where the names of things are. Then, it generates a game editor, and the user just labels what things do and can release a game editor in under 20 minutes. It can also export a entire editor to google sheets to crowdsource development.
I want to expand the current support to include editors for variable width hex, JSON, and XML, as well as increased functionality like double click to rename, and notification to user they haven't saved in awhile, among other things.
To date, to my knowledge there exists nothing like what i am trying to create. The closest comparisons are nightmare / nightmare modules (a old buggy mess of a program that is a nightmare to work with) and some windows DOS program thats literally unusable without a virtual box. I'm making a flexable game modding environment that isn't specific to any one game. I am looking for anyone interested in partnering / joining up and helping expand upon it and add new features.
Any level of experience is welcome, but the project is in C# / WPF and i absolutely demand anyone joining up to use discord, i simply refuse to use email or fucking snapchat for software development. I have never managed a group project before, but i'll do what i can. in addition to C# i'm looking for you to meet at least ONE of these conditions. If not, then your probably not who i'm looking for. If you meet even one and are interested, great!
- Understanding and experience with game modding.
- Familiarity with Hex Editors
- Know how to make a Json/Xml/etc editor.
- Experience with RPG MAKER or similar software
- Or if your just ridiculously experienced in C# and really want to help.
The tool allows users to create some really great mods, and i want to greatly expand it, visually, functionally, and with new features.
It can make editors for almost anything. Games like: Paper mario, fire emblem, the tales of series, octopath traveler, zelda, final fantasy, Resident Evil, Etrian Odyssey, Xenoblade, Pokemon mystery dungeon, anything really. So yeah, If you like game modding or want to help any modding community at all, come get in touch!
My Discord: Dawnbomb (I'm on the new system, no # numbers)
Imgur Album: https://imgur.com/a/SSoxa7d

One of my favorite things about Mr. King is that he has a genuinely interesting voice when writing as himself. I am the sort to read all the notes before and after each story, and I will buy a new copy of a book I have if it has a new introduction by the author.
My personal favorite thing I've read was a pamphlet in a Ramones anthology I bought once. He discusses how much he loves the band and why. He talks about how one of the best moments of his life was singing Rockaway Beach with the band of writers he's in. He also tells a story about a dinner with Joey Ramone that made me love both of them more than I already did. I later bought a tribute album of Ramones covers simply because the back said he had written the liner notes, and it was once again an incredibly touching love letter.
For any other fans of his work what are some of your favorite things you've read of his that weren't a story? I'd love to hear other's weigh in.

I don't know if this is allowed, If not, I'll happily delete. This is a recent comment on one of Jessica's articles about the Idaho Murders and...I can't. I just can't.
We are being lied to about what happened that night. Let's remember, law enforcement is allowed to lie to us and they are under NO obligation to share the truth with the public! Nothing about the official narrative makes ANY sense and there is indeed a cover-up of epic proportions taking place! They are protecting some very important people, as well as the University, the town of Moscow - and their profit$! Everything points to this being drug related and a lot of people on the peripherals are somehow involved - including some corrupt law enforcement. Here are some things I've learned about this tragedy that I wanted to share with everyone...
Please keep in mind that anything I share has not been proven as fact and this is only information I've gathered from different sources which I believe to be true (or very close to the truth) :
1. Everyone go check out the YouTube channel: Thou Shall Not Kill. He has been 'boots on the ground' in Moscow ID and his videos contain unique local footage, information and perspectives. His sources offer the best theory I've heard so far - the theory that makes the most sense - it's very eye opening!
2. This was about DRUGS. Apparently Maddie was upset because the drugs being sold out of the house were being cut with fentanyl (and could therefore kill people).
Allegedly Maddie flushed roughly $275,000 worth of drugs down the toilet and threatened to 'snitch' on the operation and the dealers and report it to the authorities if it didn't stop. Xana was the one responsible for stashing the drugs and this would explain why she had the lock fixed on her bedroom door and didn't want the other roommates (or anyone else) having access to her room. Maddie "told Adam everything" - and Jack S (who was acquainted with Emma Bailey and maybe others involved in the drug ring) knew she was in danger and that "they were gonna get her for this" - which they DID - just a few hours later. Word got back to the 'King Pin' of the operstion and he ordered the hit - a gruesome cartel-style slaughter - to send the message that you don't F around with them or this is what happens!
3. Research and look into the REAL owner of the Mad Greek restaurant, where both Xana and Maddie worked. His name is 'Constantinos' and allegedly he's an international drug King Pin with legitamite business fronts all over. His daughter is in the same sorority as one of the roommates and she's also the owner of the abadoned white Elanta found in Oregon apparently. (This statement about the Oregon Elantra could be incorrect and I'm not 100% certain of this).
4. The owner(s) of 1122 King Road are involved somehow - that house is owned by an LLC and they were VERY quick to just give their house away to the University.. who can afford to just throw away a WHOLE HOUSE?!
5. Dylan (and possibly Bethany) knew something was gonna go down, they were told it would be some kind of a shakedown - NOT that the four would be murdered. I believe this is how they were able to get Dylan to cooperate and play a part, and how they had someone 'on the inside'. D & B were fully aware their "friends" were being murdered at the time and her story in the PCA is BS. They were likely involved in the cleanup afterwards and the killers told them to wait until NOON to call 911 - but to first call over some of their friends to muck up the killers' tracks and taint the crime scene. These girls are scared for their LIVES and it's why they won't step foot near Idaho. It's really weird they don't talk to any of their sorority sisters or friends in Moscow ID anymore ... you'd think that after something so horrific and traumatizing you'd would want the support of your friends and especially your sorority sisters .. but I guess not if you have something to hide and to protect ...
6. That VSCO picture of Dylan gazing at the camera with a HUGE knife - is creepy AF! Who takes a picture like that? It's not done in a funny or jokey way - it's intense and kinda terrifying - and if you ask me - very telling. Kinda like the matching tattoos Dylan and Bethany got VERY SOON after the murders .. TOO soon IMO. Those tattoos come across as a 'badge of honor' more than a tribute to the victims. Super sketchy.
7. Emma Bailey, Demetrius Robinson, Quinn Kelley and Brent Kopacka had something to do with the murders - as did some corrupt law enforcement (local police officers/FBI?) Officer Payne of Moscow PD owns some kind of warehouse for a meat processing/packing business in North ID close to the border apparently.
Large scale drug rings require the involvement and protection of LE to be successful and make the kind of money they make. Payne and Kopaka are connected through the Military (?) I believe. It's alleged that Emma stashed drugs in the house with Xana (and possibly also in the empty room that was under Ashlyn Couch's name on the King Rd. lease). Emma Bailey lives super close just behind the King Rd. house - and would be a very close spot for the killers to flee to after the murders.
8. The leaked audio is REAL and shows there was some kind of ambush that night. The authorities have 'debunked' it as fake - because it is proof of what really transpired! It's not as if they would admit to the public it is real.. This was an ambush and the killers were KNOWN to the victims in one way or another. No one snuck in the back sliding door in the dark, like some ninja assassin, and stabbed 4 people on two separate floors, inflicting such horrific injuries in such a VERY SHORT amount of time - then just dissapeared into the night without so much as a trail of blood! Sorry but that just didnt happen. The victims were awake and things went from normal to deadly fast.
9. There were at least 3 people inside the house that night - and likely a few more outside and on the perimeters, keeping watch. The cops nearby at around 3 AM who were busting those kids for drinking were lookouts that night. The officer involved in that encounter has since left the Moscow PD force - which I find to be a strange and suspect coincidence (?) Those cops were in plain clothes and an unmarked/undercover car RIGHT NEXT to the King Rd. house at the SAME TIME as the murders. I find it really ODD that they busted those kids (who were being pretty responsible really) and held them up for SO LONG, asking them A LOT of unnecessary - and frankly dumb - questions, like: "what brand of beer were you drinking?" If you watch the bodycam footage you can tell the cops were trying to draw that encounter out for as long as possible and stall those kids to prevent them from going anywhere near 1122 King Rd! You can even see 3 or 4 dark silhouettes (people) running in single file from the direction of the murder house in the bodycam footage! I don't believe that Moscow PD has undercover officers in plain clothes and unmarked cop cars just lurking around Greek Row at 3 AM to catch drunk kids stumbling out of apartment buildings.. I just don't buy that.
10. Drugs are a HUGE problem in Idaho and a quick Google search will show there is solid evidence the Cartels operate in that area. This has been covered by their local media many times and it's not like it's a secret!
It's not like it's far-fetched to say that huge drug rings operate in Moscow Idaho. It's a FACT. And it's not like it's far-fetched to say college campuses are a HUGE market for these drug rings and can make them a TON of money! Fraternities and Sororities are well known for dealing drugs ... just think about this: if every person at that 150-person party at King Rd. (that took place the night before the murders) spent $$ on drugs - that would be thousands of dollars in profit - in just ONE night at ONE party. It's not far-fetched to assume that pretty sorority girls would be tasked with supplying drugs to all the college kids and all their friends - because who would suspect them?! Especially considering we now KNOW FOR A FACT that they were all connected to Emma Bailey, who is a convicted drug dealer! There is even bodycam footage of her leaving the King Rd. house on one occasion.
11. Where there's smoke - there's fire.
We must ask ourselves WHY do we keep hearing that this was a known drug house and all these things alluding to drugs and a shakedown gone wrong - if there's nothing to it? WHY have so many people that are close to the murders (Jack S, Inan Harsh, the surviving roommates) all left town, never to return? WHY are the locals still so scared if the guy who did it is behind bars? WHY is there such secrecy surrounding the case and WHY do they want to demolish the King Rd. House before the trial even starts?!!
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and over-production is a greater sin than under-production.
I prefer my art have to drips and smudges and fingerprints all over it. It gives the art charm and character, and is (imo) a more direct current to the immediacy and the passion/energy of the event being recorded. Not unrelatedly, I believe art (and creativity in general) thrives in the face of constraints: constraints in time, money, technology, etc., concentrating the ideas/passions being conveyed. MTM is a result (and an exemplar) of such a crucible. A relaxing of constraints no doubt opens the range of creative possibilities, allowing for the improvement in certain facets of a work, but it can also dilute the intent.
I want to be clear that I am not shitting on FTF here. It is a fantastic album! If it was the only version we had access to, it would still stand as a monumental achievement. But because we do have MTM, FTF always sounds to me as Will covering his own songs. I don't think that is an inaccurate take (Will himself has said he doesn't recognize/resemble his former self), but neither do I think it is a bad thing. For me, more than anything FTF is interesting: to see where a more mature, professional, and distanced Will makes different choices and edits his former self. But academics aside, I almost always listen to MTM.
I don't expect to convince anyone here. I acknowledge I have a weird aesthetic. I blame Robert Pollard in large part for corrupting my young ears. But that is one great thing about this fan-base: that we all love the band, but can be drawn to disparate qualities. I recall someone on this sub saying MTM Cute Thing was "unlistenable" (which I think is by far the better version) and just today there was a post arguing over Famous Prophets Minds/Stars. We are all "correct", of course ;)
This is the part of the post where I start to regret writing it...

Hallo zusammen, Ich (f24) befinde mich gerade in einer ziemlich schwierigen Situation und brauche den Rat von unbeteiligten Personen. Ich bin von meinem Ex (m35) seit ca. 1,5 Monaten getrennt nachdem wir ca. 2 Jahre zusammen waren. Ich habe die Beziehung beendet weil es einige sehr toxische Muster bzw. ungleiche Machtverhältnisse gab. Obwohl ich Schluss gemacht habe hat mir die Trennung sehr weh getan, immerhin habe ich ihn sehr geliebt und wir hatten schon viele Pläne für die Zukunft geschmiedet.
Nach der Trennung bin ich wieder zu meiner Mutter gezogen, ich und mein Ex hatten eine gemeinsame Wohnung. Ungefähr 2 Wochen nach der Trennung bin ich mit Freunden feiern gegangen um meinen Kopf frei zu bekommen und habe durch einen gemeinsamen Freund Lukas (Fake Name, m26) kennen gelernt. Wir haben uns an dem Abend sehr lange unterhalten und ich hab gleich ehrlich gesagt dass ich erst seit kurzem getrennt bin, und dass ich noch nicht richtig über meinen Ex hinweg bin. Er hat selber eine 10 jährige Beziehung hinter sich und war sogar verheiratet. Dadurch dass er auch erst 4 Monate geschieden ist haben wir die Lage des anderen direkt sehr gut verstanden. Ich bin an dem Abend überstürzt noch mit zu ihm nach Hause gefahren, habe dann aber einen Rückzieher gemacht bzw. ihm gesagt dass ich nichts se**elles will, weil es für mich einfach noch zu früh ist. Es war dann etwas weird zwischen uns aber er hat es akzeptiert und mich am nächsten Morgen nach Hause gefahren. Davor hat er mich aber nach einem Date gefragt um mich weiterhin kennen zu lernen und ich dachte mir ok, warum auch nicht. Wir haben uns dann nach ner Wochen oder so zum Essen getroffen und uns gut unterhalten. Ich hab nochmal erwähnt dass ich noch nicht bereit für was neues bin und er meinte es ist ok, er will mich einfach als Mensch kennenlernen. Seitdem haben wir uns regelmäßig getroffen und einfach Zeit miteinander verbracht. Es war immer ganz schön, aber ich merke dass es sich falsch für mich anfühlt so früh nach der Trennung direkt wieder eine Kennenlernphase einzugehen. Er ist ein richtiger Gentleman zu mir und behandelt mich gut, hält mir Türen auf, führt mich zum essen aus, ect. Er besteht auch immer darauf mein essen zu bezahlen obwohl ich es eigentlich gewohnt bin für mich selber zu zahlen. Ich habe immer wieder das Gefühl ihm irgendwie mehr "schuldig" zu sein, weil er mich eben gut behandelt, und das Gefühl gibt er mir auch durch gewisse Dinge die er sagt. Wenn ich zum Beispiel keine Zeit für ihn habe oder länger nicht zurück schreibe weil ich beschäftigt bin schreibt er mir sachen wie "Du lehnst mich immer wieder ab, ansonstengeht es mir aber gut" ect. Oder "Ich wundere mich ja nicht dass ich bei so einer schönen Frau wie dir keine Chance habe." Ich habe dann immer ein schlechtes Gewissen, aber ich will mich auch zu nichts zwingen wozu ich noch nicht bereit bin. Ich habe ihn auch schon öfter darauf angesprochen dass ich es langsamer angehen lassen möchte. Er sagt dann immer ok kein Problem, aber trotzdem geht es dann immer im gleichen Tempo weiter. Er schreibt mir jeden Tag ob wir uns sehen können, und einmal war er schon unangekündigt vor meiner Haustür, was mich ehrlich gesagt überfordert hat. Er hat schon ein paar mal versucht mich zu überreden bei ihm zu übernachten, ich hab jedes mal abgelehnt, und jedes mal führte das zu ner unangenehmen Situation in der er es unbedingt wollte und ich ihn deutlich zurück weisen musste.
Auf jeden Fall merke ich mittlerweile deutlich dass das ganze nicht passt zwischen uns. Er hat mir schon gestanden dass er Gefühle für mich entwickelt, und ich kann das grade einfach nicht erwidern. Ich kann mir auch in näherer Zukunft keine Beziehung mit ihm vorstellen, und es wird immer deutlicher dass er darauf hinaus möchte. Wie würdet ihr euch in meiner Situation verhalten? Ich möchte ihn nicht ghosten, immerhin ist er ein netter Kerl und sowas macht man einfach nicht. Wenn ich offen und ehrlich anspreche das es mir zu schnell geht kommt das irgendwie nicht richtig bei ihm an, und ich tu mir persönlich auch schwer sowas deutlich einzufordern (people pleaser). Ich könnte auch versuchen mich zu distanzieren und weniger auf ihn einzugehen, auch wenn es ihn verletzt. Ich möchte ihm einfach keine falschen Hoffnungen machen oder mich in noch mehr Situationen begeben die mir unangenehm sind. Würdet ihr es direkt beenden und den Kontakt abbrechen, oder den Kontakt einfach minimieren und "ausschleichen" lassen? Danke im voraus für eure Tipps, vorallem die männliche Perspektive würde mich sehr interessieren. Also wie ihr das beenden einer Kennenlernphase am schmerzlosesten empfinden würdet. Ich will ihm wirklich nicht weh tun.

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Hello, I'm 14 and I'm a bass player, I can play other instruments to, but id rather play bass.
I'm looking to join or form a band in the Memphis TN area (preferably a death metal, metalcore, thrash metal or doom metal band) as a bassist.
My age range is 14 to 17 if I'm forming a band.
I have album covers, band names, song names etc.
and I've been playing bass for 3 years
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/iLikeSodaSometimes/ Gmail: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) Discord: Snowblind#2002

I am 23 turning 24 next month and gustong gusto ko na maging healthy. Parang buong buhay ko is ang taba ko. Puro kasi ako stress eating at di ko mapigilan ang cravings dahil naka ''self love'' activate ako. Do you know any dietitians or clinics na covered ng HMO? I am willing to lose fat na. Ayoko na ng gantong cycle palagi. Gusto ko na maging healthy at ayoko rin mamatay ng maaga.
Nag tatry naman ako mag gym, mag bawas ng kain, at intermittent fasting pero wala. Ang hirap hirap hirap mag lose ng weight. Ayoko naman magpacheck up sa OB to know if may pcos ako kasi may iniinsert daw sa *toot* eh wala pa akong exp tapos ayoko mawala yung tightness lol. It may sound weird pero ayoko. So, sa dietitian nalang ako lalapit.

Exodus after 7 years, had kept many thrash metal covers on hold for so long, but upskilling has helped and they are so much easier to play now.
For me, first three albums are perfect and almost equals, contrary to the opinion of pleasures of the flesh considered to be a touch below bonded by blood and fabulous disaster.
The song is a killer, underrated as hell and easily one of the best mid-paced thrash metal songs of all times. The guitars (H team) are killers with both Rick Hunolt and Gary Holt levelling up in this album, Zetro rips, Tom Hunting great as always and Rob does the perfect job of being the rhythm driver, very less talked about even after being a part of a huge band.
The bass playing on this one is more that applies to speed and power metal, sticking to the root notes for most of the riffs, Ian Hill of Judas priest is famous for that. Not usually seen in thrash metal. The downpicking made it fun, also has a great groove and drive to it.
Just one challenge, downpicking. Lately I figured out that the trick to it is warming up the wrist, finding an appropriate wrist/hand position, in terms of angle, pick holding and the pick movement. One mistake that I used to make in the past with downpicking is straining the picking arm, it is mostly wrist movement.
Figured out the tabs by ears and by isolating the bass tracks from the demo and album versions of the song.🤘
Original Bassist : Rob Mckillop Genre : Thrash Metal From the epic 'Pleasures of the flesh'
Hope you enjoy it 🤘
https://youtu.be/IdCY1GeZVhM

Exodus after 7 years, had kept many thrash metal covers on hold for so long, but upskilling has helped and they are so much easier to play now.
For me, first three albums are perfect and almost equals, contrary to the opinion of pleasures of the flesh considered to be a touch below bonded by blood and fabulous disaster.
The song is a killer, underrated as hell and easily one of the best mid-paced thrash metal songs of all times. The guitars (H team) are killers with both Rick Hunolt and Gary Holt levelling up in this album, Zetro rips, Tom Hunting great as always and Rob does the perfect job of being the rhythm driver, very less talked about even after being a part of a huge band.
The bass playing on this one is more that applies to speed and power metal, sticking to the root notes for most of the riffs, Ian Hill of Judas priest is famous for that. Not usually seen in thrash metal. The downpicking made it fun, also has a great groove and drive to it.
Just one challenge, downpicking. Lately I figured out that the trick to it is warming up the wrist, finding an appropriate wrist/hand position, in terms of angle, pick holding and the pick movement. One mistake that I used to make in the past with downpicking is straining the picking arm, it is mostly wrist movement.
Figured out the tabs by ears and by isolating the bass tracks from the demo and album versions of the song.🤘
Original Bassist : Rob Mckillop Genre : Thrash Metal From the epic 'Pleasures of the flesh'
Hope you enjoy it 🤘
https://youtu.be/IdCY1GeZVhM

Exodus after 7 years, had kept many thrash metal covers on hold for so long, but upskilling has helped and they are so much easier to play now.
For me, first three albums are perfect and almost equals, contrary to the opinion of pleasures of the flesh considered to be a touch below bonded by blood and fabulous disaster.
The song is a killer, underrated as hell and easily one of the best mid-paced thrash metal songs of all times. The guitars (H team) are killers with both Rick Hunolt and Gary Holt levelling up in this album, Zetro rips, Tom Hunting great as always and Rob does the perfect job of being the rhythm driver, very less talked about even after being a part of a huge band.
The bass playing on this one is more that applies to speed and power metal, sticking to the root notes for most of the riffs, Ian Hill of Judas priest is famous for that. Not usually seen in thrash metal. The downpicking made it fun, also has a great groove and drive to it.
Just one challenge, downpicking. Lately I figured out that the trick to it is warming up the wrist, finding an appropriate wrist/hand position, in terms of angle, pick holding and the pick movement. One mistake that I used to make in the past with downpicking is straining the picking arm, it is mostly wrist movement.
Figured out the tabs by ears and by isolating the bass tracks from the demo and album versions of the song.🤘
Original Bassist : Rob Mckillop Genre : Thrash Metal From the epic 'Pleasures of the flesh'
Hope you enjoy it 🤘
https://youtu.be/IdCY1GeZVhM

Ok, so this might be a long one, which i may or may not add to through edits if people decide to tell me otherwise or chime in with legit theories. Also this is just an observation and discussion, if you think that i have gotten things wrong, please tell me, it will give me some time to kill till Sunday-Funday.
I've been following the general subject for a long time (compared to my current age), I have been meaning to write something but due to stigma i thought that it was a little silly to get too heavily involved in the sub. But all the recent negativity has almost forced me to feel inclined to chip in.
First I'll start with some basic observations concerning UAP/UFO lore-

1. There is always an attempt at a coverup by people who we could consider "above the government"
2. The videos that we do get to view are always blurry
3. People both skeptics and believers demand hard evidence that they simply aren't entitled to get.
4. The witnesses that are involved with situations like these and people who talk about these points have an opportunity to use their fame to make a living.
5. There is a media drip that allowed the stigma for the field of study to be ridiculed.
6. There are disinformation campaigns that pollute the very core of the subject.
7. Extremely reputable people will come forward and be ridiculed by the general public due to mental and cultural conditioning.
8. There is no definition between fields of studies within even this sub itself. (This is a big one!!)
9. The UAP is in expected to be benevolent, by a large majority of the users.
10. The necessity and also danger of skepticism.
11. The conspiracy mindset.
12. The increase of reports, and why the Whistleblower is more important than previous events (thing Greer's disclosure meeting event)

So to expand,

1. The coverup of something you are not supposed to see is a great casus beli, why haven't we got any proof? Because the the people who are paid money to focus on this one aspect of disinformation are simply very good at their jobs. Think of a World renowned chef, or heart surgeon, they most likely don't even need to think about what they are doing, and do not put any extra effort at their job, they live and breathe this line of work. It would most likely be a similar situation with someone who has devoted their lives to disinformation and media manipulation.
2. The videos are alway blurry, we have had accounts of many sightings, lots of video footage, some spectacular, some absolute rubbish (think las vegas zoomed in aliens (even though you're probably already sick of this)). So many times in accounts, there has been records of people saying UAP's and creatures are simply "hard to look at". which covers the shitty side to this. BUT when there is some exceptional footage, it's always 'too good to be true'. Must be CGI, must be faked somehow. So it's a lose-lose situation. There is no consensus on what would be considered by this sub to be honest verifiable information.
3. Lots of people are banging on about how they "need to see hard evidence" and that's all that will convince them. So this evidence is potentially top secret, so im sorry, what makes the people who have the most intricate disinformation campaign, hide stuff from people in much higher places than you, think that. Hey this UAP sub is pretty legit, we are going to give them all the information because they deserve it. Fun fact, in their eyes, you are worker bees, and they are the beekeepers. they are a higher entity than you in that regard and they see you as something akin to an insect. Without demanding that this gets released to congress and then declassified, you are never going to see legit papers (without occasional leaks (and possibly controlled leaks)). People with this as their only way of fully believing might as well just get out of this conversation and join the rest of the public to wait for full disclosure, as for them it's either everything or nothing.
4. Stains on the reputations of yourself and myself, Think someone like Steven Greer and the more fringe abduction stories etc. I think there is no further explanation needed on this part. It damages the reputation to such a degree, that anyone joining the conversation will immediately leave the talk. Is this another level of disinformation? Hard to tell, but as i will go into detail about later whoever is running the disinformation campaigns is surely benefiting from these people whether their intention or not. (even the rift they create in the community is beneficial to disinformation)
5. The media drip is a simple concept, any thing until a few years ago that mentioned aliens was ridiculed by the media, these reports were always from the angle of comedy. ill put the next bit in brackets, because even for myself it is a little wild, but more of an example into how it could be used, (this is most likely not true but the CONCEPT stands (Look at steven Spielberg's E.T., people who are into this line of thinking are believing they have magic fingers and ride in bikes in front of the moon with children, add in some weird connection with almost undertone of romance, hey presto the UAP following community are connected with Pedophilia.)) Play destroy all humans, the game, look at all the obvious references to current UAP lore, it bleeds through, and this game is a comedy game (great game btw).
6. The disinformation campaigns run into the very core of this subject, and it could be argued that it runs so well that outside intervention is not actually necessary to the upkeep of these campaigns (more on this later)
7. Unfortunately for the mass of the public, it would take the president him/herself to declare this as a real phenomenon in a world address to make this seen as legit. Even though in theory the President of the USA is only a temporary employee position of the US government, and someone who is already in the loop theoretically holds a higher position than a public, temporary employee. They are the face of the USA, but looking at it from a reasonable perspective, someone who has been working a high position in the DOD for 50 years or whatever would have seen over 10 presidents (that's a guess). The label "Deep State" has actually damaged the accessibility of the concept (another disinformation?), where it is actually simple, people who have worked in structured hierarchies outside of the temporary domain of the public representatives have almost autonomy, due to the very nature of 'Classified' information.
8. This is a big one, and IMO it should really be addressed within this community. Why does a legit study of UAP's need to crossover with something as reputation breaking as gathering together to meditate to summon a UAP mothership. The lack of definition between subjects causes all the fringe theories to be mixed into one melting pot, then be branded as simply "batshit crazy" by outsiders. The whole WOO thing (even if it has some sort of credibility) is just damaging the reputation of a legit study into the phenomena. Think of the 4chan leaker, the conversations was littered with (yes racism, its 4chan, what do you expect) people saying they can summon UAP's with their mind, and this is not a foreign concept within the reddit subs. This really needs to be addressed, the scientific community has shied away from this subject en masse because of the stigma, that much is true. Saying you can summon UAP's with your mind (etc.) is only increasing the stigma. And on the flip-side, what a perfect disinformation concept... Why would you want to be involved with this community if you knew for a fact that recently outside your town thousands of people meditated and tried to summon an alien entity, (very cultic action BTW) who ever runs the disinformation campaign either heavily influenced this, or is laughing because they made his/her job easier, and simply did it for them.
9. Are they benevolent? This is a big part of the argument, we don't know enough to actually understand this. People assume the release of information coined the "Great Disclosure" will only bring positives to this world. What happens if there is truly terrifying reasons that has kept disclosure from becoming a thing. Hell it may bring world peace and people making love not war with other alien species, or it could reveal we are under some sort of extreme oppression and danger. The problems of this are not privy to the general public, we simply don't know. I assume there is a real reason for the existence of UAP's to be a conspiracy to some extent.
10. Last part, the Skeptics. So this is an interesting subject. Skeptics are necessary in their own right, but due to the levels of fanatics we find following UAP lore and theory (Think WOO), we also get an equal problem where skeptics will try to debunk things with equally wild claims. The skeptics aren't like a scientific community, they don't try to disprove theories with as much effort, (mostly), with corabarating data that backs up their claims, they just throw the classic "FAKE" at it, claim CGI, claim balloons where it is unlikely, (Except the Mothers day balloon guy VS metapod, that was actually legit and impressive, Kudos), meteor showers, bugs on the lens, whatever etc. This goes to such an extreme, that it is almost easy to tell this may be the effects of a well oiled disinformation campaign, i.e. they are disproving themselves within their own community. You don't find skeptics anywhere else except from the conspiracy community, there are only opposing theories. hell there are even people who have said that the Government released videos are; Fake; CGI; Stupid; Balloons. How great is this level of disinfo where people are questioning the validity of government approved released UAP videos.
11. So the conspiracy mindset is an interesting thing to look at, because of decades of disinfo, and ridicule it has increased the paranoia of some of the conspiracy theorists. a recent example: New Whistleblower? Must be a disinfo campaign, the government is trying to plant something to mislead us; Vegas? Must be a campaign to distract us from the Whistleblower news. Now this mindset is something that has permeated the Mentality of the community for a long time, and i fully believe it is heavily linked to both disinformation and the paranoid mindset, in this example, we are told to focus on the original narrative because this is fabricated to distract us, which is such a ludicrous concept that benefits a disinformation campaign wholly. Why not focus on both? because one is made to discredit the other? how deep into the conspiracy mindset when you can't just take at face value that both have the validity to be true. They are too close together? Yes sometimes in every field two unrelated events occur almost instantaneously and that is the nature of something being truly random. The most logical explanation is that they simply are both happening.
12. This current whistleblower is more important because of ease of access to information that this direct era is privileged to. The people who can't see that and argue, "but they did this in 1978" (Or whatever) are forgetting the concept that information travels much, much further now. I think the people who previously ran the disinfo campaign are actually giving up, due to everyone having cameras, and the seemingly decreasing effectiveness to simply "scrub" information from public record. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmBniAE4y8E This is a great example for the argument.

I may add some more if this conversation gains a little traction. I only thing that it should be stated at some point, Yes the title even-headed could be argued to be complete bullshit, and that is peoples opinions. I think that the key point i'm trying to make is that because this was previously a 'tinfoil hat' conspiracy subject, doesnt mean we cant evolve from that and be an actual place of reasonable discussion, with reasonable skepticism. Bring in the extreme on both sides and pull them together to create a more realist focus of discussion (or cut out the extreme for more fringe sites). And focus on the credible and reliable centre discussion, (compared to aliens made me sterile etc.)
There are many viable reports and legit documents i have read in the last year, and some of these have had no focus whatsoever, but in actual reports where the data corroborates each other massively is where any researcher will find truth. If I can be bothered i will add it in another time.
Oh and for the love of god if anyone calls this a disinfo attempt is clearly too far gone for a reasonable conversation.
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